Affadavit of support

[Zana]

Pazi sad - bez obzira sta si potpisao, onog trenutka kada dobijes zelenu kartu ne moze niko da ti zabrani da apliciras za pomoc na koju imas pravo. To bi ovde bilo protivzakonito - socijalna pomoc kao kategorija nisam cula da postoji bar ne u definiciji kako se to radi tamo. To smo i mi potpisali ali zato sto pretpostavljam to pokazuje tvoje namere da ozbiljno nameravas da normalno zivis u USA. Svako ima pravo da konkurise za unemployment benefits ako posle minimum 6 meseci rada u firmi ostane bez posla (ja sam to uradila i dobila sam pozitivan odgovor - druga stvar je sto sam pocela da radim posle nedelju dana i prakticno ponistila resenje o nezaposlenosti) tako da taj potpis nije imao veze ni sa cim). Drugo, ako ispunjavas uslove za Section 8 niko ne moze da se pozove na bilo kakav potpis. E sad sa logicne strane - ako bilo ko dolazi ovde sa namerom da zivi na taj nacin (bez posla, od government benefits), onda bolje da ne dolazi. Ovo nije socijalna zemlja - od tih para se ne zivi (nije ovo Svedska ili Austrija). Dakle ja zaista verujem da ziveti tako nije poenta dolaska ovamo. Dobro je znati da imas pravo na to za ne daj Boze ali... od toga nema 'leba ovde. Poz Zana

[Gringo]

Uz sve podatke koje davalac Affidavita unosi u obrazac, potpisuje izmedju ostalog i sljedece:

"This affidavit is made by me for the purpose of assuring the U.S. Government that the person(s) named initem (3) will not become a public charge in the United States.
I am willing and able to receive, maintain and support the person(s) named in item 3. That I am ready and willing todeposit a bond, if necessary, to guarantee that such person(s) will not become a public charge during his or her stay in theUnited States, or to guarantee that the above named person(s) will maintain his or her nonimmigrant status, if admitted temporarilyand will depart prior to the expiration of his or her authorized stay in the United States.
I understand this affidavit will be binding upon me for a period of three (3) years after entry of the person(s) named initem (3) and that the information and documentation provided by me may be made available to the Secretary of Health and HumanServices and the Secretary of Agriculture, who may make it available to a public assistance agency."



Kompletan obrazac se nalazi na
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-134.pdf

[Zana]

Eto nije da nesto sad tupim... ali sebe smatram jako dobro upucenom u razno razne zakone i propise te evo korisnih podataka ispod sta znaci "public charge" sa posebnim naglaskom na 'bold". Napomena: slobodan prevod za public charge je da na duzi period zaglavis u zatvoru ili "ludari' (laksi mentalni bolesnici nisu bolnicama znaci radi se o tezim slucajevima), SSI ne mozes ni da dobijes za tri godine jer neces ni platiti dovoljno u fond da bi "sakupljao" novce. Dakle:

Definition of Public Charge
The proposed rule, which was drafted after an extensive interagency process with benefit-granting agencies, defines “public charge” to mean an alien who has become (for deportation purposes) or is likely to become (for admission or adjustment of status purposes) “primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, as demonstrated by either the receipt of public cash assistance for income maintenance, or institutionalization for long-term care at government expense.” This definition alone, however, cannot be used to determine if an alien is a public charge --other issues must be considered, as specified below.
The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) is implementing this definition of public charge immediately through field guidance discussing the definition and standards for public charge determinations. The field guidance will be published along with the proposed rule in the Federal Register. In addition, the United States Department of State (DOS) will send a cable to U.S. consulates abroad providing guidance on public charge determinations for admission purposes. By making this guidance effective immediately, INS and DOS are helping to relieve public concerns about receiving health care and other important services, as well as providing field personnel with the tools needed to enforce immigration law in a clear and consistent manner.
At the same time, INS is seeking public comment on this approach. The proposed rule includes a 60-day public comment period.
Benefits Subject to Public Charge Consideration
The proposed rule specifies that cash assistance for income maintenance includes Supplemental Security Income (SSI), cash assistance from the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program and State or local cash assistance programs for income maintenance, often called “General Assistance” programs. Acceptance of these forms of public cash assistance could make a non-citizen a public charge, if all other criteria are met (as described below in the section “Criteria for Public Charge Determinations.”)
In addition, public assistance, including Medicaid, that is used for supporting aliens who reside in an institution for long-term care -- such as a nursing home or mental health institution -- will also be considered by INS and DOS officials as part of the public charge analysis. Short-term institutionalization for rehabilitation is not subject to public charge consideration.
Benefits Not Subject to Public Charge Consideration
Non-cash benefits and special-purpose cash benefits that are not intended for income maintenance are not subject to public charge consideration. Such benefits include:
• Medicaid,
• Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP),
• Food Stamps,
• the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC),
• immunizations,
• prenatal care,
• testing and treatment of communicable diseases,
• emergency medical assistance,
• emergency disaster relief,
• nutrition programs,
• housing assistance,
• energy assistance,
• child care services,
• foster care and adoption assistance,
• transportation vouchers,
• educational assistance,
• job training programs,
• and non-cash benefits funded under the TANF program.
Some of the above programs may provide cash benefits, such as energy assistance, transportation or
child care benefits provided in cash under TANF or the Child Care Development Block Grant
(CCDBG), and one-time emergency payments under TANF.
Since the purpose of such benefits is not for income maintenance, but rather to avoid the need for
on-going cash assistance for income maintenance, they are not subject to public charge
consideration.

Dakle, nije problem ukoliko ne planirate da budete deportovani ili iznenada poludite, sve ostalo je ok. Uostalom vec rekoh - ako neko dolazi sa planom da vise ne radi nego sto radi - USA nije dobar izbor u tom slucaju. Ako treba prevod od svega gore, mogu da uradim za par dana ali sve jedno cete se upoznati sa sustinom kad se doselite (hteo ne hteo - moras )
Poz Zana

[Gringo]

Zana (Nimani? ), hvala ti na ovom pojasnjenju.

Dakle, sto bi rekao nas narod, in the bottom line, ovi iz amabasade u SA traze taj papir koji i nije bas toliko bitan i nije bas tolika garancija i jos se, kao sto se u njemu i kaze odnosi na nonimmigrants.


PS
"Dakle, nije problem ukoliko ne planirate da budete deportovani ili iznenada poludite, sve ostalo je ok. "- odlicna primjedba!!!

[steficacvek]

Nije toliko ni bitno u ovom trenutku imamo li pravo na socijalu ili ne, vjerujem da niko od nas ne racuna na to. Ja znam da sigurno ja ne namjeravam postati public charge, namjeravam sama sebe izdrzavati. Bitno nam je skupiti dokumente i uspjesno zavrsiti intervju, dobiti vizu i krenuti u novi zivot

Ali u svakom slucaju, Zana hvala na objasnjenju, dobro je imati informacije!

[Seekimo]

Takodje,hvala Zana,a i konkretan prevod bi mnogima dobro dosao,pa ako ti nije problem prevedi nam to sve,nikad se nezna.

[landlord]

Evo samo da kazem da sam pitao konacno tetku za affadavit of support.. i ona je rekla da je ona mislila da ja vec racunam na to.. kao ma nema problema.. naravno da cu ti poslati..

eto samo da se pohvalim kako ja super tetku imam..
i da pozelim svima da nadjete nekoga ko ce vas sponzorirati..

poz.

[xeg]

Bravo tetkaaa

[mariags]

interesuje me da li osoba koja bi mi poslala garantno pismo mora da ima americko drzavljanstvo ili je dovoljno da ima green card?

[Olivera]

Da. Dovoljno je da ima samo GC. Ali da tamo zivi, ima prihode i placa porez.